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Löschantrag Puchinger Bäuerin (Peter Geymayer)

Peter Geymayer ist leider 2022 verstorben, siehe hier. --Kuhni74 (talk) 20:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

War mir bekannt, dennoch danke für den Hinweis. Gruß --Rosenzweig τ 20:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

URAA fun

See Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#Public_Domain_Day_2025 and Commons:Deletion requests/Henri Matisse not public domain in 2025. I see quite a few inconsistent deletion request closures where {{Not-PD-US-URAA}} is used for files uploaded after 2012. Do you know what is going on here? Category:URAA-related deletion requests/pending currently has quite a few open cases and closing should be consistent. Multichill (talk) 12:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

It is official Commons policy that if something is still protected in the US because of the URAA, that is a reason for deletion, even if it is the only one. One should check for several things (like the actual duration of the copyright term in the source country on the URAA date – not every country had 70 years then –, or the matter of actual publication, not easy for things like paintings), but if URAA protection is positively established, it's a reason for deletion.

Not-PD-US-URAA is an old stopgap (goes back to 2007) from the time when the US Supreme Court had not yet decided on the URAA. It must not be used for anything uploaded after March 1, 2012. In the discussions after the Supreme Court had finally decided, the debate went back and forth, but finally it was decided that yes, URAA was a reason for deletion and Not-PD-US-URAA should not be used for new uploads. With all that debate, it's quite complicated, and it took me a while to come to those conclusions. Unfortunately, some people did not want to acknowledge the outcome of the debate (some still don't) and try to continue keeping files and labelling them with Not-PD-US-URAA. That has become less over the last few years though, see the discussions you mention above. Regards --Rosenzweig τ 13:44, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, that confirms what I was thinking. People are quite hostile about it so I guess that kept people from nominating files. No fun at Commons:Deletion requests/File:La robe de bal (035303).jpg.

So looks like we have nearly 4700 files that use {{Not-PD-US-URAA}} and are uploaded before the cutoff date, see https://petscan.wmcloud.org/?psid=30749520

And over 10.000 files after 2012 that use it, see https://petscan.wmcloud.org/?psid=30749533

Quite the mess. Multichill (talk) 20:59, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, nothing new unfortunately. The same thing happened last year with Commons:Deletion requests/File:The chess game 2001 NYE 08515 0126 000(024845).jpg and various other DRs. --Rosenzweig τ 21:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

URAA is very unpopular (something that also came up in discussions I had at Wikimania 2024). But consensus is clear, post-2012 uploads have to be deleted if URAA restored copyright. Abzeronow (talk) 21:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

File:Émile P. Torres profile 2024.png

Hi, I actually didn't want this file and the cropped version to be deleted, I was just following the instructions in the speedy deletion box telling me to open a deletion request if I disagree. This is why I replied with the reason why I think the files shouldn't be deleted. Would there have been a way to make that clearer? Rismari (talk) 01:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, I misunderstood that. I have restored the files. In case something like this happens again, please retain the text (This file was initially tagged by XYZ as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: ...) and then write that you object and for what reason. Regards --Rosenzweig τ 01:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! Rismari (talk) 09:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)